it's budget cuts in red states have forced them to lay off teachers, a majority of women lay off heal care workers majority of women. >> the same argument they use for african-american voters, that the unemployment rate is so high. in so many states, it's because so many government jobs have been cut. when you get smaller government, they want to blame you for putting people out of work. >> exactly. >> yeah, it's -- and it works. a lot of people are fooled by this. it's no different i think laura, than these politicians who come out and say freedom isn't free and cut my taxes. it's this, they're talking out of both sides of their mouth. >> and we need to reduce the debt, because that works. >> we're talking with laura bassett and taking your calls at 866-55-press. are you excited about the debate? >> super excited. i'm the most excited about the vice presidential debate but i'm excited to hear president obama go head-to-head against romney. i hear romney has been working on his zingers. >> the ad libs have been very well rehearsed. >> it's going to be great. i'm excited to hear romney